Here is my opinion on the best takedown arts for MMA. Agree? Options

[Rayrobinson#1]

1) Greco. Clinching is much more frequent in MMA due to the punching and kicking leaving openings. Greco makes a great transition to MMA especially takdowns.

2) Judo. I actually had a college wrestling coach tell me he thought Judo was better suited for MMA. He coaches wrestling but also has a black belt from Gokor's school. He said because wrestlers tend to focus on shooting in compared with Judo which focuses on gripping before the throw. I would actually put Judo ahead of Greco if Judo was without a Gi.

3) Wrestling. Obviously still great for takedowns.

4) ????

[Madness]

For sure.


Sambo too.

[BigE]

I've never trained it, but how well does Judo translate in no-gi situations?

I'd say Greco, Wrestling, Judo. Having a top notch double/single and sprawl is much more important, as most guys will have that basic wrestling in some respect.

[Rayrobinson#1]

I've never trained it, but how well does Judo translate in no-gi situations?

I'd say Greco, Wrestling, Judo. Having a top notch double/single and sprawl is much more important, as most guys will have that basic wrestling in some respect.

Most Judo throws work with no gi but you have to find a grip. You end up grabbing the wrist, the arms, the neck, the back under the arm to replace the Gi grip. You can find a way to make them work with some practice. To me the foot sweeps are alot harder but I see my son catch them all the time without a gi.

My main criticism about Judo, and this maybe more of the level of Judo I am exposed to, is that most Judo guys just don't use double leg or single leg shots. As a result the sprawl is not that good. I could be all wrong maybe the international level have good shots. Part of the problem is the shoots are harder because when you can touch the Gi you have a better chance of negating any shoot.

[Rayrobinson#1]

For sure.


Sambo too.

Sambo is like a spin off of Judo. I think I consider it the same school.

[2P1S]

Brazilian Jiu Jitsu

[Rayrobinson#1]

Brazilian Jiu Jitsu

Takedowns? The have some proficiency in takedowns but not that great.

[Madness]

For sure.


Sambo too.

Sambo is like a spin off of Judo. I think I consider it the same school.

Ya. I guess you're right. It's kind of a combination of several different martial arts.

Oh and BJJ is a bad choice. They almost NEVER go for take downs and, in fact, often let themselves be taken down so as to pull guard. BJJ's WANT to be on the ground, on the bottom.

[BigE]

Brazilian Jiu Jitsu

Takedowns? The have some proficiency in takedowns but not that great.

BJJ (at least in my experience) focuses equally on Judo and wrestling, so if you really go after it, your takedown game will be pretty hard to stop. However, they never really focus on either of them enough to become great.

[DEAT]

Singles and doubles used to DOMINATE in MMA. Even a shitty shoot, like Royce, would work well, because people didn't sprawl or really defend the takedown. Now, I think the game has changed. Singles and doubles are much harder to hit by most everybody but the absolutely most quality wrestlers.

Judo throws like Tai Otoshi, Deashi Harai, and lots of the body lock leg trips are really coming into their own in MMA. You are seeing them used by everybody. Some of the "gi" throws are not easy to do without a gi, but the trips are excellent, especially when in a clinch where the guy might be trying to throw knees.

Greco is strange. I'd say that the takedown slams count in that category, the suplexes, etc. But the body lock stuff is so similar to the judo takedowns that I'd almost interchange them.

BJJ guys, when they do a takedown, are doing judo takedowns, but they don't train them like judo guys, so they look sort of like retards.