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Overrated Fighters, Who wouldnt be competitive against AS!
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post Feb 8 2010, 08:44 PM
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gegard mousasi

man this guy doesnt stand a chance. i dont know where all the hype is coming from. this guy hasnt been near as impressive against lower level comp then anderson has been facing. anderson tools top fighters, gegard struggled against sokoujo. infact, he was losing until sokouju ran out of gas. i dont know where the fuck people get the idea that mousasi can even be competitive against anderson silva. maybe its because he is affiliated with fedor, or maybe its the fact that he fights for a different ORG. i have no fucking clue where his hype is coming from! rampage would beat his ass, evans would blanket him to a decision, forrest would kick his leg off, shogun would brutalize him, etc... fucker isnt even top 10 and hasnt displayed skills that would make me think he would beat anyone in the top 10!

machida

just because anderson says that machida gets the better of him in sparring, everyone assumes he would beat silva. anderson says alot of shit he doesnt really mean. he was giving his team mate a confidence boost when he said that. nothing more. machida has not been impressive to the point where i think "hey, he might give silva a fight" because i see silva beating his ass up and down the cage. silva's striking is light years ahead of machida! until machida shows he can stand toe to toe of a top level guy with his hands down, and school him, i am not impressed. silva used to clean house in chute box. other chute box fighters have went on record saying tha silva was the best striker in the camp. shogun was also a part of chute box when silva was the king. we all seen what shogun did to machida regardless of what blind judges say.

its time for people to start being real. everytime someone within a weight class of silva wins a fight, they are supposedly the next person to beat silva. it never fails. silva is absolutely schooling guys, dodging punches with his hands at his waiste, knocking fools out while looking bored in the process, inventing new death moves like the anderson elbow, etc....

meanwhile, machida is knocking b level guys out with tough man style combinations. jabbing and running for dear life. mosasi is getting rag dolled and tossed around by unproven C level guys like sokoujuu, and people think these are the tools who are going to beat silva in a fight? i would not bet on mousasi to win a rematch with jacare!


man, just wait until you guys see what silva does to vitor belfort. just fucking wait. this wont even be a competitive fight. silva is going to school him, and finish him. this fight wont make it passed the first round.


unlike most people, i am a believer in anderson silva. everyone is so desperate to find the guy who will beat silva, i have accepted the fact that no one is going to touch silva while he is in his prime.

for once in your life, be fucking real. that is all im asking you. there is no fucking way in hell you can look at mousasi's or machida's past fights and say that he will be competitive with silva with a straight face. theres no fucking way! just be real for once!

sonnen
belfort
mousasi
GSP
machida


i will add to this list when the next great hype comes along




FOR FUCKS SAKE, BE REAL!
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post Feb 8 2010, 10:01 PM
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GSP is overhyped? Aside from getting caught one time, when was the last time he was even in trouble? He is about as dominant as anyone in MMA right now. Get the fuck outta here with that nonsense.

Since the Rua fight, I don't think Machida is nearly as highly thought of as he was. Yes he won the decision, but plenty of people (me included) thought he lost quite convincingly. If he is that good, he comes back out and dominates Rua in the rematch.

I'm still not sure on Mousasi. The fact of the matter is, he has blown through everyone the past few years. Now, would he do that in the UFC? Who knows. Dana needs to get him in ASAP.
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post Feb 8 2010, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE (BigE @ Feb 8 2010, 11:01 PM) *
GSP is overhyped? Aside from getting caught one time, when was the last time he was even in trouble? He is about as dominant as anyone in MMA right now. Get the fuck outta here with that nonsense.

Since the Rua fight, I don't think Machida is nearly as highly thought of as he was. Yes he won the decision, but plenty of people (me included) thought he lost quite convincingly. If he is that good, he comes back out and dominates Rua in the rematch.

I'm still not sure on Mousasi. The fact of the matter is, he has blown through everyone the past few years. Now, would he do that in the UFC? Who knows. Dana needs to get him in ASAP.


GSP doesnt want any part of silva. its obvious as hell from his interviews. if you think GSP can even be competitive against silva, you are dreaming! its time for you to wake up and....

BE REAL!
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post Feb 8 2010, 10:54 PM
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Silva lost to Ryo Chonan and Daiju Takase. lol.
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post Feb 8 2010, 11:40 PM
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This thread is overrated.
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post Feb 9 2010, 12:08 AM
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this thread is the truth!

im sick of people pulling fighters out of their asses thinking these clowns can even be competitive with anderson silva! not even you guys believe the shit you write! that is the absolute truth! you guys need to be true to yourselves. you know there isnt a fighter within 2 weight classes of silva that can fuck with him. he is P4P the greatest fighter on the planet!

when you guys say so and so would be a good fight against silva, you know you dont really believe that BS. you are thinking the complete opposite as you type that gibberish. you know silva could flatline anyone they put in front of him and make it look easy! he is on another level. the only time silva has really been hit, is when he lets fools hit him. its all mind games with silva. "here, go ahead and hit me one time" "now its my turn to hit you" FIGHTS OVER!

silva is MMA's version of tyson, ali, jones jr. all wrapped up into one! this fucker can KO you brutally like a prime tyson, float around the ring like a prime ali, and school your ass with his hands down like a prime roy jones jr!

BE REAL!
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post Feb 9 2010, 08:17 AM
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QUOTE (McBanned @ Feb 8 2010, 10:20 PM) *
QUOTE (BigE @ Feb 8 2010, 11:01 PM) *
GSP is overhyped? Aside from getting caught one time, when was the last time he was even in trouble? He is about as dominant as anyone in MMA right now. Get the fuck outta here with that nonsense.

Since the Rua fight, I don't think Machida is nearly as highly thought of as he was. Yes he won the decision, but plenty of people (me included) thought he lost quite convincingly. If he is that good, he comes back out and dominates Rua in the rematch.

I'm still not sure on Mousasi. The fact of the matter is, he has blown through everyone the past few years. Now, would he do that in the UFC? Who knows. Dana needs to get him in ASAP.


GSP doesnt want any part of silva. its obvious as hell from his interviews. if you think GSP can even be competitive against silva, you are dreaming! its time for you to wake up and....

BE REAL!

I didn't read the whole title...this is only about guys who Anderson would beat? Well yeah, he'd probably beat GSP. Anderson has fought multiple times at 205, for Christ's sake. He's just a bigger guy than GSP is.
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post Feb 9 2010, 10:07 AM
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Whether you want to face the truth or not some of the figthers you mentioned have a decent chance to upset Anderson

At light heavyweight

Machida - of course he has a chance. The fight won't happen but Machida has incredible reflexes and skill.

Rua - the version who showed up against Liddell and Machida would have a great shot to defeat Anderson.

Middleweight

Mousasi of course would have a punchers chance. He is no Forrest. He has real good hands. His takedowns are good as well. You seriously must have never seen him fight.

Belfort. Of course great stand up and good ground fighting.



Those are the only fighters who I think would have a legit shot. That is saying alot in two divisons I can only come up with 4 names.
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post Feb 9 2010, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE (Rayrobinson#1 @ Feb 9 2010, 11:07 AM) *
Whether you want to face the truth or not some of the figthers you mentioned have a decent chance to upset Anderson

At light heavyweight

Machida - of course he has a chance. The fight won't happen but Machida has incredible reflexes and skill.

Rua - the version who showed up against Liddell and Machida would have a great shot to defeat Anderson.

Middleweight

Mousasi of course would have a punchers chance. He is no Forrest. He has real good hands. His takedowns are good as well. You seriously must have never seen him fight.

Belfort. Of course great stand up and good ground fighting.

Those are the only fighters who I think would have a legit shot. That is saying alot in two divisons I can only come up with 4 names.


Good list, but I wouldn't put Mousasi in there
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post Feb 9 2010, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE (97SRAD750 @ Feb 9 2010, 08:02 AM) *
QUOTE (Rayrobinson#1 @ Feb 9 2010, 11:07 AM) *
Whether you want to face the truth or not some of the figthers you mentioned have a decent chance to upset Anderson

At light heavyweight

Machida - of course he has a chance. The fight won't happen but Machida has incredible reflexes and skill.

Rua - the version who showed up against Liddell and Machida would have a great shot to defeat Anderson.

Middleweight

Mousasi of course would have a punchers chance. He is no Forrest. He has real good hands. His takedowns are good as well. You seriously must have never seen him fight.

Belfort. Of course great stand up and good ground fighting.

Those are the only fighters who I think would have a legit shot. That is saying alot in two divisons I can only come up with 4 names.


Good list, but I wouldn't put Mousasi in there



Mousasi is 28-2-1 (17 KO's and 9 Sub). He has wins over Sorbral, Soko, Hunt, Jacare. I would think he is a worthy opponent. Underdog of course to Silva but he would be one of the best opponents I could come up with.
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post Feb 9 2010, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE (Rayrobinson#1 @ Feb 9 2010, 12:34 PM) *
QUOTE (97SRAD750 @ Feb 9 2010, 08:02 AM) *
QUOTE (Rayrobinson#1 @ Feb 9 2010, 11:07 AM) *
Whether you want to face the truth or not some of the figthers you mentioned have a decent chance to upset Anderson

At light heavyweight

Machida - of course he has a chance. The fight won't happen but Machida has incredible reflexes and skill.

Rua - the version who showed up against Liddell and Machida would have a great shot to defeat Anderson.

Middleweight

Mousasi of course would have a punchers chance. He is no Forrest. He has real good hands. His takedowns are good as well. You seriously must have never seen him fight.

Belfort. Of course great stand up and good ground fighting.

Those are the only fighters who I think would have a legit shot. That is saying alot in two divisons I can only come up with 4 names.


Good list, but I wouldn't put Mousasi in there



Mousasi is 28-2-1 (17 KO's and 9 Sub). He has wins over Sorbral, Soko, Hunt, Jacare. I would think he is a worthy opponent. Underdog of course to Silva but he would be one of the best opponents I could come up with.


And nobody on that list is a top ten fighter, maybe not even top 15. Mousasi looks legit, but I need to see more. Mousasi/Henderson would be fun after Henderson beats Shields
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post Feb 9 2010, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE (Rayrobinson#1 @ Feb 9 2010, 11:07 AM) *
Whether you want to face the truth or not some of the figthers you mentioned have a decent chance to upset Anderson

At light heavyweight

Machida - of course he has a chance. The fight won't happen but Machida has incredible reflexes and skill.

Rua - the version who showed up against Liddell and Machida would have a great shot to defeat Anderson.

Middleweight

Mousasi of course would have a punchers chance. He is no Forrest. He has real good hands. His takedowns are good as well. You seriously must have never seen him fight.

Belfort. Of course great stand up and good ground fighting.



Those are the only fighters who I think would have a legit shot. That is saying alot in two divisons I can only come up with 4 names.


just wait buddy, silva is going to hurt vitor belfort. i hate to say it because im a fan of belfort's but he is not going to be competitive with silva. he knows what he is in for and he knows he is going to lose! have you read any of his recent interviews regarding the silva fight? he doesnt sound too confident, he sounds like a beat man, he doesnt want to fight silva. vitor gets added to silva's high light reel. i would give vitor odds on beating everyone on the list with the exception of rua. belfort would destroy machida and mousasi.


mousasi has never shown any skills that makes me think he would be competitive with silva. he was getting tossed around like a grappling dummy against sokoujuu. what would silva do to sokoujuu if they clinched? the fight would be over 30 seconds later with sokoujuu laying on the canvas in a busted, bloody, heap of shit and dreadlocks!

mousasi isnt strong enough to lock up with silva in a clinch. mousasi is physically weak. he is fighting B and C level fighters and not looking too impressive in his wins.

what would silva do to hunt? he would land strikes at will on hunt. silva is too fast, his foot work is too good, his accuracy is the best, and he has a complete striking arsenal. he would finish hunt in the first round via landing everything but the kitchen sink! dont even give me this iron chin, k-1 level striking garbage. silva would tool him. you take hunt's iron chin and put him in the ring against a guy like tommy hearns and i guarantee one quick combo to the chin and hunt would be dummied! theres a big difference in being able to absorb single big shots and brain rattling combos.

i dont know why you are pulling this shit out of your ass? maybe you think it makes you seem more knowledgable then you really are because you can discuss who you think might beat silva in a fight. the real knowledgable fans know whats up, they know silva is P4P king. silva has shown matrix like skills and hasnt shown any weaknesses in the last 5 or 6 years! he submits guys who are supposed to beat him on the ground, and tools everyone who is supposed to give him a stand up war. silva doesnt fear being taken down, when was the last time you seen silva try to defend a takedown? he leaps into takedowns with flying knees for fuck sake! that doesnt sound like a guy who is scared of being taken down. he doesnt give a fuck where he fight goes. he knows he is the best. the fighters zuffa is putting him up against is a slap int he face! silva wants to fight heavyweights. he was asking for frank mir, zuffa gives him forrest griffen. you seen what an angry silva did to that bum! he took his heart and made him quit!

silva destroys every fighter listed in this thread and makes it look easy. you guys need to...

BE REAL!
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post Feb 9 2010, 01:26 PM
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Hey asshole, nobody is saying Anderson isn't king at 185. Those who've listed future opponents for him are merely saying they have a chance against him. You're acting like he's invincible. Nobody is invincible and your smug, know-it-all attitude is annoying.
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post Feb 9 2010, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE (McBanned @ Feb 9 2010, 07:51 PM) *
QUOTE (Rayrobinson#1 @ Feb 9 2010, 11:07 AM) *
Whether you want to face the truth or not some of the figthers you mentioned have a decent chance to upset Anderson

At light heavyweight

Machida - of course he has a chance. The fight won't happen but Machida has incredible reflexes and skill.

Rua - the version who showed up against Liddell and Machida would have a great shot to defeat Anderson.

Middleweight

Mousasi of course would have a punchers chance. He is no Forrest. He has real good hands. His takedowns are good as well. You seriously must have never seen him fight.

Belfort. Of course great stand up and good ground fighting.



Those are the only fighters who I think would have a legit shot. That is saying alot in two divisons I can only come up with 4 names.

mousasi is physically weak.

How many times have you sparred with him?
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post Feb 9 2010, 01:47 PM
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McBanned sounds like that Bodhi guy. Both a little too excited, a little too unwilling to see the other side of an argument.

From what I've seen, Mousasi looks legit. He hasn't faced many "name" guys, but he's looked impressive when he has. And no-one really thinks Soukojou was "beating him" prior to the sub, he was doing what he always does, come out like a whirlwind and look decent in the first round. Once he slightly settled down, Mousasi owned him in short order.

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post Feb 9 2010, 05:41 PM
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QUOTE (Madness @ Feb 9 2010, 10:26 AM) *
Hey asshole, nobody is saying Anderson isn't king at 185. Those who've listed future opponents for him are merely saying they have a chance against him. You're acting like he's invincible. Nobody is invincible and your smug, know-it-all attitude is annoying.



Yeah no fighter is unbeatable. To beat Anderson you need to be well rounded and have good stand up. There are some guys who have the ability especially at light heavyweight. To me Anderson has never even faced a light heavyweight with any hope to beat him. Forrest just does not have anywhere near the stand up skills and Irvin was also a no hoper. Rua and Machida at light heavyweight obviously would be threats.
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post Feb 9 2010, 05:50 PM
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Anderson is easily the least "invincible" of the three guys normally considered for P4P#1 status. He's also the oldest, has the most losses, and has the hardest losses to explain away, to the weakest competition.

Submission/wrestlers tend to age better than pure strikers, due to the reflexes involved in striking. I wouldn't be surprised if Machida kicked his ass.
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post Feb 10 2010, 12:11 AM
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This thread bites.

Yeah, Silva is awesome. No, he's not unstoppable. Even good fighters have off days and occasionally get caught off guard by a good strike. Besides, his wrestling is relatively weak and we haven't seen it fully exploited yet. And before we rain on Belfort, at least Silva/Belfort is significantly more interesting than garbage matchups like Silva/Griffin.
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post Feb 10 2010, 10:00 AM
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Lidell. Couture has had a better career with less hype.
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