Who are you picking Carwin or Mir? |
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Who are you picking Carwin or Mir? |
Feb 24 2010, 04:50 PM
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This fight has huge ramifications for the divison. Who are you picking to win this fight?
I think Carwin is going to use Lesnar's game plan. Take Mir down beat on him with his big meat hooks and pound him out. 6'4 and 255 is about the size of Lesnar as well. Divison NCAA II champion. Although his jiujitsu seems to be lacking. I just don't see Mir having the right stuff to beat this cat. Carwin is one of two heavyweights in the UFC to wear the 4XL gloves, the other being Brock Lesnar. |
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Feb 24 2010, 04:50 PM
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Mir.
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Feb 24 2010, 04:52 PM
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Mir
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Feb 24 2010, 05:01 PM
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Mir is going to play with him.
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Feb 24 2010, 05:11 PM
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Feb 24 2010, 05:35 PM
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Regional Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,867 Joined: 12-February 08 From: Whitechapel, London Member No.: 55 |
Mir.
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Feb 24 2010, 08:38 PM
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this fight wont even be competitive. carwin is a product of the UFC hype machine. he is a big guy with knockout power but mir is also heavy handed with much better striking. i think mir has a better chin as well.
this fight wont make it past the 3 minute mark. im betting that the first exchange of strikes from mir will leave carwin on the mat in a busted heap. he doesnt have the speed, chin, or echnical striking to handle mir's firepower. mir is going to kongo carwin in impressive fashion. mir takes this either by sub or KO. im leaning towards a KO victory. carwin was getting worked against gonzaga until he threw that blind KO punch. i think gonzaga destroys him if they ever rematch. mir is the real deal, its just that brock is a freak of nature. out of all the muscle guys i have seen in my day, i still have yet to see one built the same way as brock. that guy's upper body is fucking insane. just looking at that big mofo you can tell he is an extremely powerful guy. he is nothing like your average heavily muscled guy (cain). |
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Feb 24 2010, 10:43 PM
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this fight wont even be competitive. carwin is a product of the UFC hype machine. he is a big guy with knockout power but mir is also heavy handed with much better striking. i think mir has a better chin as well. Sure that is why he won a divison II NCAA wrestling championship. If it only took one punch to knock Gonzaga out then Carwin would do it again only faster next time. |
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Feb 24 2010, 11:53 PM
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this fight wont even be competitive. carwin is a product of the UFC hype machine. he is a big guy with knockout power but mir is also heavy handed with much better striking. i think mir has a better chin as well. Sure that is why he won a divison II NCAA wrestling championship. If it only took one punch to knock Gonzaga out then Carwin would do it again only faster next time. being a division II NCAA wrestling champ is one step above being a high school state wrestling champ. his wrestling wont even be a factor. mir would punk him in a straight up grappling match as well. carwin is going to get punked bad by mir. you are falling for the hype. carwin's biggest career win, he looked like shit and he would get smoked in a rematch. first exchange of strikes mir is going to either knock his ass out, or drop him and finish with a sub. this wont even be competitive. this fight wont go past 3 minutes and you can count on that. mir is going to look spectacular when he derails the carwin hype train! mir wins this anyway he wants and ends the fight whenever he wants |
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Feb 25 2010, 12:03 AM
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BELIEVE IN THE POWER OF MIR! THE NEXT UNDISPUTED HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD!
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Feb 25 2010, 11:05 AM
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Mir has been knocked out 3 times (4 if you count Lesnar). He was knocked out two times by guys you never even heard of. You all keep thinking Mir rolls Carwin, I will be in Vegas making $$$$.
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Feb 25 2010, 11:10 AM
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I just want to see how the newly roided up Mir performs. If he runs through Carwin, I'll be much more interested in the Brock rematch. I wonder how all the new muscle will effect his cardio, though.
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Feb 25 2010, 11:15 AM
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Here's the thing Mir isn't taking Carwin down. I don't believe Carwin will take down Mir. My gut says Mir wins but like RayRob pointed out Mir has been hurt by guys that didn't have the power of Carwin.
I'd like Carwin to win, because I've seen Mir/Lesnar enough in both fights to have a decent feeling about what would happen in the third fight. Plus I want to finally put to rest the size difference between Carwin/Lesnar. I think Carwin will be the smaller man in both fights. |
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Feb 25 2010, 05:45 PM
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Toss up for me.
And yes Mir will have a very hard time getting Carwin down and could pay for it with his teeth. It's an intresting match up for sure. |
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Feb 25 2010, 06:29 PM
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Mir has been knocked out 3 times (4 if you count Lesnar). He was knocked out two times by guys you never even heard of. You all keep thinking Mir rolls Carwin, I will be in Vegas making $$$$. Correction. Guys YOU have never heard of. Ian Freeman is pretty well known. Regardless, Mir is a better fighter now than he was in those fights. |
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Feb 25 2010, 09:50 PM
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Mir has been knocked out 3 times (4 if you count Lesnar). He was knocked out two times by guys you never even heard of. You all keep thinking Mir rolls Carwin, I will be in Vegas making $$. you act like carwin is some kind of world class striker and world class wrestler. he hasnt proven anything and he was very unimpressive when he stepped up against gonzaga. mir is the better striker and he is the better grappler. carwin is not a mini brock lesnar. he isnt even in the same league as lesnar. where was carwin's world class div II wrestling when gonzaga took him down? you are going to look like an idiot when mir punks carwin and makes it look easy. mir is going to stand with him and bust his chops in the first striking exchange. you bring up mir's losses, but you dont bring up the fact that he was coming from a terrible motorcycle wreck where he almost lost his leg. even in those losses, he proved he is a tough son of a bitch. mir can take a beating and pull off the win. man, mir is going to make this fight look so easy and like all these prediction threads ive read on here, you will avoid it like the plague. whenever one of you guys starts up a thread like this, post fight these threads NEVER get bumped. you can be sure im going to bump this bitch to the top even though i know you wont ever post in it again. "but..but..but carwin is a div II wrestler with 4XL gloves" GTFO of here with that bullshit. you have fallen for the hype. carwin has proven jack shit other then he has KO power. mir has KO power and he has better striking along with his world class submission skills. |
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Feb 25 2010, 10:26 PM
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I can't see Mir losing other than getting caught standing up with Carwin, which for Mir's sake he should avoid at all costs. Carwin has a puncher's chance.
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Feb 25 2010, 11:02 PM
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Mir has been knocked out 3 times (4 if you count Lesnar). He was knocked out two times by guys you never even heard of. You all keep thinking Mir rolls Carwin, I will be in Vegas making $. you act like carwin is some kind of world class striker and world class wrestler. he hasnt proven anything and he was very unimpressive when he stepped up against gonzaga. mir is the better striker and he is the better grappler. carwin is not a mini brock lesnar. he isnt even in the same league as lesnar. where was carwin's world class div II wrestling when gonzaga took him down? you are going to look like an idiot when mir punks carwin and makes it look easy. mir is going to stand with him and bust his chops in the first striking exchange. you bring up mir's losses, but you dont bring up the fact that he was coming from a terrible motorcycle wreck where he almost lost his leg. even in those losses, he proved he is a tough son of a bitch. mir can take a beating and pull off the win. man, mir is going to make this fight look so easy and like all these prediction threads ive read on here, you will avoid it like the plague. whenever one of you guys starts up a thread like this, post fight these threads NEVER get bumped. you can be sure im going to bump this bitch to the top even though i know you wont ever post in it again. "but..but..but carwin is a div II wrestler with 4XL gloves" GTFO of here with that bullshit. you have fallen for the hype. carwin has proven jack shit other then he has KO power. mir has KO power and he has better striking along with his world class submission skills. So let me get this straight Carwin looked terrible in a fight he won by KO? |
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Feb 25 2010, 11:17 PM
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yeah he looked like shit, have you seen the fight?
gonzaga was wrecking carwin and making it look easy. he took him down, was rocking him all over the cage with strikes, carwin threw a blind punch that connected. carwin would not win a rematch against gonzaga. if gonzaga picked his shots, he would make carwin look like a dummy. up until the KO punch, carwin looked like he didnt even belong in the same cage as gonzaga. either way you are biased towards carwin. you seem to think he is on the same level as lesnar and its not even close to being the case. lesnar is a fucking dump truck. he has the size, power, speed, and athletic ability to run his opponents over. carwin doesnt. im not falling for the cain hype either. he is impressive and i think he would be a monster at light heavyweight against anyone except for anderson silva. the two best prosepects to beat lesnar are mir and junior dos santos. dos santos has the striking and mir has the subs. after carwin gets rolled by mir, he wont even be a factor in the heavyweight division. he is gatekeeper level and nothing more. |
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Feb 26 2010, 02:12 PM
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yeah he looked like shit, have you seen the fight? gonzaga was wrecking carwin and making it look easy. he took him down, was rocking him all over the cage with strikes, carwin threw a blind punch that connected. carwin would not win a rematch against gonzaga. if gonzaga picked his shots, he would make carwin look like a dummy. up until the KO punch, carwin looked like he didnt even belong in the same cage as gonzaga. either way you are biased towards carwin. you seem to think he is on the same level as lesnar and its not even close to being the case. lesnar is a fucking dump truck. he has the size, power, speed, and athletic ability to run his opponents over. carwin doesnt. im not falling for the cain hype either. he is impressive and i think he would be a monster at light heavyweight against anyone except for anderson silva. the two best prosepects to beat lesnar are mir and junior dos santos. dos santos has the striking and mir has the subs. after carwin gets rolled by mir, he wont even be a factor in the heavyweight division. he is gatekeeper level and nothing more. Cain absolutely isn't hype. Carwin is the one that has more to prove but Cain has already beaten three legitimate heavyweights in a row Rothwell, Kongo and Nog. What the hell do you want him to do to earn his hype? Carwin would blast out Gonzaga anytime. Anytime a guy can take out a fighter with one punch it is a huge advantage. Gonzaga couldn't take out Carwin but Carwin did. I actually look at the outcome of fights, I know that maybe crazy but yeah I will stick with that. |
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