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Aoki invades America, Melendez-Aoki April 17th Strikeforce.
BigDaddyBowe
post Mar 1 2010, 09:00 PM
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What a fight and card, 3 title fights.

Melendez-Aoki (Melendez title on the line, Aoki's dream title is not)
Mousassi-King Mo
Shield-Henderson

I'm tipping Aoki, Gegard and probably Henderson but I'll be rooting hard for Shields.

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post Mar 1 2010, 11:39 PM
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How is this card not better than the average ufc card?

I think people are going to see how good Melendez really is. I was debating someone about these two guys not too long ago. awesome fight.
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post Mar 3 2010, 11:50 PM
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Awesome card. I can't wait to see Melendez tap out. Also can't wait to see Lawall get his ass KO'd. I can't stand that fucker.

I like Shields and Henderson, but I don't see Shields having a chance.

My predictions:

Aoki by triangle choke
Mousasi TKO 1
Henderson KO 3
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post Mar 4 2010, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE (Joe @ Mar 3 2010, 09:50 PM) *
Awesome card. I can't wait to see Melendez tap out. Also can't wait to see Lawall get his ass KO'd. I can't stand that fucker.

I like Shields and Henderson, but I don't see Shields having a chance.

My predictions:

Aoki by triangle choke
Mousasi TKO 1
Henderson KO 3



Yeah Shields to me just doesn't match up with Henderson. Stylewise it seems like the worst possible match up for Shields. I don't see him taking down Henderson and I know he can't trade with Henderson.

Melendez is gonna surprise lots of folks. Melendez by GNP.

Mousasi is gonna tear apart Mo. This is a destruction waiting to happen
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post Mar 4 2010, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE (Rayrobinson#1 @ Mar 2 2010, 12:39 AM) *
How is this card not better than the average ufc card?

I think people are going to see how good Melendez really is. I was debating someone about these two guys not too long ago. awesome fight.


It is a good card, but I don't see where it's that much better then

UFC 111
GSP vs Dan Hardy #1 vs #4
Mir vs Carwin #3 vs #9
Fitch vs Alves #2 vs #3

UFC 112
Silva vs Maia #1 vs #5
BJ vs Edgar #1 vs #7

UFC 113
Machida vs Shogun #1 vs #2
Koscheck vs Daley #5 vs #7

Strikeforce
Mousasi vs King Mo #6 vs Unranked
Shields vs Henderson #2 vs #7 (and much like Silva vs Maia this one looks like a stinker)
Aoki vs Melendez #2 vs #8

It's better then what we've seen the last few UFC, but that's without all the big dogs.
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post Mar 4 2010, 01:37 PM
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I think Aoki is a definite underdog here. His only shot is to pull out a slick submission, and even that is not going to be easy. He can't KO Melendez, and he won't win a decision either.

Melendez by 2nd round TKO.

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post Apr 17 2010, 09:49 PM
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Well, I was mostly right.
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post Apr 17 2010, 09:56 PM
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melendez was robbed of a 4th round stoppage. aoki but scoots into a hard punch and is rocked, melendez goes for the kill landing vicious GnP clean, mario yamasaki stops the fight to stand them up. melendez starts celebrating thinking he won, aoki stumbling around the cage on rubberlegs.

fuck that racist ref trying to protect his fellow countrymen
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post Apr 17 2010, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE (McBanned @ Apr 17 2010, 10:56 PM) *
melendez was robbed of a 4th round stoppage. aoki but scoots into a hard punch and is rocked, melendez goes for the kill landing vicious GnP clean, mario yamasaki stops the fight to stand them up. melendez starts celebrating thinking he won, aoki stumbling around the cage on rubberlegs.

fuck that racist ref trying to protect his fellow countrymen



laugh.gif God damn you're stupid.

It was a horrible call, but I hardly think it was a result of him protecting his "countrymen" unless Aoki is also from Brazil.
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post Apr 17 2010, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE (Joe @ Apr 18 2010, 12:06 AM) *
QUOTE (McBanned @ Apr 17 2010, 10:56 PM) *
melendez was robbed of a 4th round stoppage. aoki but scoots into a hard punch and is rocked, melendez goes for the kill landing vicious GnP clean, mario yamasaki stops the fight to stand them up. melendez starts celebrating thinking he won, aoki stumbling around the cage on rubberlegs.

fuck that racist ref trying to protect his fellow countrymen



laugh.gif God damn you're stupid.

It was a horrible call, but I hardly think it was a result of him protecting his "countrymen" unless Aoki is also from Brazil.



the referee was japanese you fucking idiot! not brazilian
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post Apr 17 2010, 11:51 PM
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Mario Yamasaki was born and raised in Brazil. He's a black belt under Rickson Gracie, so if he was gonna be partial to anybody it would be Melendez of the Caeser Gracie camp.

Leave this board, you retard.
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post Apr 18 2010, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE (Rayrobinson#1 @ Mar 4 2010, 11:52 AM) *
QUOTE (Joe @ Mar 3 2010, 09:50 PM) *
Awesome card. I can't wait to see Melendez tap out. Also can't wait to see Lawall get his ass KO'd. I can't stand that fucker.

I like Shields and Henderson, but I don't see Shields having a chance.

My predictions:

Aoki by triangle choke
Mousasi TKO 1
Henderson KO 3



Yeah Shields to me just doesn't match up with Henderson. Stylewise it seems like the worst possible match up for Shields. I don't see him taking down Henderson and I know he can't trade with Henderson.

Melendez is gonna surprise lots of folks. Melendez by GNP.

Mousasi is gonna tear apart Mo. This is a destruction waiting to happen


At least I was right about Melendez. About time he can get his due. I personally think he should be ranked in top 2

Time for Henderson to retire.
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post Apr 18 2010, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE (Joe @ Apr 17 2010, 10:51 PM) *
Mario Yamasaki was born and raised in Brazil. He's a black belt under Rickson Gracie, so if he was gonna be partial to anybody it would be Melendez of the Caeser Gracie camp.

Leave this board, you retard.


D'oh!
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post Apr 18 2010, 12:42 PM
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Gil Melendez is not the second best LW in the world. He's good, don't get me wrong. Sorry Aoki was exposed as the one trick pony he is. No striking, no wrestling.
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post Apr 18 2010, 01:05 PM
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Wow good picks on the fights BDB laugh.gif

QUOTE (BigDaddyBowe @ Mar 1 2010, 10:00 PM) *
What a fight and card, 3 title fights.

Melendez-Aoki (Melendez title on the line, Aoki's dream title is not)
Mousassi-King Mo
Shield-Henderson

I'm tipping Aoki, Gegard and probably Henderson but I'll be rooting hard for Shields.
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post Apr 18 2010, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE (97SRAD750 @ Apr 18 2010, 11:42 AM) *
Gil Melendez is not the second best LW in the world. He's good, don't get me wrong. Sorry Aoki was exposed as the one trick pony he is. No striking, no wrestling.


Well even though we know a motivated Penn is number one when you lose your last fight you have to drop so as of today you cant put Penn ahead of Melendez. Aoki was rated #2 by about every reputable ranking group. So I would have the rankings as 1) Edgar 2) Melendez 3) Penn that is as of today.
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post Apr 18 2010, 05:33 PM
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I don't care where reputable ranking groups have them. I've seen enough of Aoki to know he wasn't even a top 5 guy.

Ask yourself would you pick Gil over BJ Penn? Gil over Kenny Florian? Gil over Tyson Griffin? Gil over Sean Sherk?

Don't get me wrong he's good I just don't think he's one of the top 2-3 LW's in the world
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post Apr 18 2010, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE (2P1S @ Apr 18 2010, 07:05 PM) *
Wow good picks on the fights BDB laugh.gif

QUOTE (BigDaddyBowe @ Mar 1 2010, 10:00 PM) *
What a fight and card, 3 title fights.

Melendez-Aoki (Melendez title on the line, Aoki's dream title is not)
Mousassi-King Mo
Shield-Henderson

I'm tipping Aoki, Gegard and probably Henderson but I'll be rooting hard for Shields.



Thank you. cool.gif
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post Apr 18 2010, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE (97SRAD750 @ Apr 18 2010, 04:33 PM) *
I don't care where reputable ranking groups have them. I've seen enough of Aoki to know he wasn't even a top 5 guy.

Ask yourself would you pick Gil over BJ Penn? Gil over Kenny Florian? Gil over Tyson Griffin? Gil over Sean Sherk?

Don't get me wrong he's good I just don't think he's one of the top 2-3 LW's in the world


Penn UD Melendez

GIL UD Florian

Gil UD Griffin

Gil UD Sherk

Gil is a complete fighter which makes him so dangerous. He doesnt have a weak spot. He is like Edgar in that regard.
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post Apr 19 2010, 06:25 AM
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He's not outwrestling any of those guys I listed, so then I have to take into account striking. He's not a better striker then any of them, as good maybe. Kenny Florian would bust him up.
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