10 Great Fights that could have happened. Options

[Rayrobinson#1]

The timing would have had to have been perfect in some of these. Still I maintain these fights could have been made.

Tszyu vs. Oscar

Pryor vs. Leonard

Jones Jr. vs. Darius

Foreman vs. Holmes

Tyson vs. Bowe

Robinson vs. Burley

Mosley vs. Trinidad

Pac vs. Floyd (add this to the list it is never going to happen)

Jones Jr. vs. Benn (Between 94 and 95)

Hagler vs. Spinks

[Honest DB]

Pryor vs. Leonard

There's an example of "cowardice." But you turds never bring that one up. Gay Leonard fled from HAWKTIME like no fighter has fled before.

[2P1S]

Robinson vs. Burley

Even the pound for pound greatest ducked a guy he was afraid of. Burley had the most feared left hook in his time.

[Rayrobinson#1]

Robinson vs. Burley

Even the pound for pound greatest ducked a guy he was afraid of. Burley had the most feared left hook in his time.

He did not exactly duck him. The boxing establishment could freeze out great fighters. You had to fight so often and Burley had to fight all the fighters no one else wanted to fight. Burley beat Archie Moore but lost to Ezzard Charles. If Burley would have been allowed to fight for the title then Robinson would have fought him.

[thaiboxer]

The optimum timeframe for Jones-DM probably would have been the 2nd half of 2000 (with Jones fighting him instead of Harding, and DM fighting him instead of the random scrub he did face), and I think the venue issue could have been resolved by holding the fight in Canada or the UK, with 2 out of 3 judges picked by Jones. A 60-40 split would have been reasonable. I think it would have been a Jones win, but by a narrower margin(7-5 or 8-4). There would have been a significant chance of DM getting a KO win, though. I don't see Jones getting a KO over a prime DM, though.

[Drago]

Dariusz lost to Gonzalez, was losing to Rocciagani in 96 before he John Ruiz acted his way out and got Rocciagani DQ'd, and won a close decision over Virgil Hill. Jones smoked Hill with one punch early and won every round against Gonzalez two years before Gonzalez beat Dariusz (and then would go on to lose every round to Zsolt Erdei). Dariusz was an upright, 1-2 fighter who relentlessly stayed in front of his opponents, but didn't relentlessly throw punches. He wasn't a "pressure" fighter the way Glen Johnson was. He relied on his jab and head movement, which is why he lost to Gonzalez, having slowed up a bit. Nobody ever successfully 1. stayed in front of prime Jones, it was just out of the question. 2. controlled prime Jones with a jab, again, just out of the question. 3. out-reflexed prime Jones. The head movement that served the German well would have gotten him tagged over and over by Jones leaping pot shots. Dariusz was also pretty easy to hit, and Jones was on of the most accurate boxers of all time. I can't see Michalszewski winning on anything but a puncher's chance.

With Tyson admitting that he didn't care about boxing post prison and was not technically or mentally where he needed to be at all, I would have loved to have seen Tyson vs Foreman in the mid 90s, before Tyson fought Holyfield. conversely, I would have liked to see Tyson Holyfield happen when it should have, in 1990 or so.

Foreman Holmes would have been great prime for prime, but Foreman retired in early 77, and Holmes didn't have his first real fight (Earnie Shavers) until a year later. So it never could have happened, and to be honest, I was uninterested in who could win between the two in the 90s.

Frazier-Norton would have been tremendous, but they were "best buds", so people leave them off the hook. Meanwhile they crucify Jones for not fighting McClellan (best friends), even though there wasn't really a good time for them to fight before McClellan was rendered retarded in early 95 (Jones had just fought James Toney in late 94), and the Klitschkos for not fighting eachother.

3 fights I would have liked to see from Roy Jones:
Nigel Benn in 95 (Benn was losing to scrubs by 96)
Dariusz Michalscewski from 98-00.
Bernard Hopkins from 97-03.

[vatoloco70]

Good initial list. One fight I always wanted to see was Vargas v Mosley

[JoeBoxer]

Vargas and mosley fought each other twice, but obviously past their best at this time.

Tyson vs foreman in the 90s could have been fun!

Jones and dm should have fought but they are both to blame.

[2P1S]

Robinson vs. Burley

Even the pound for pound greatest ducked a guy he was afraid of. Burley had the most feared left hook in his time.

He did not exactly duck him. The boxing establishment could freeze out great fighters. You had to fight so often and Burley had to fight all the fighters no one else wanted to fight. Burley beat Archie Moore but lost to Ezzard Charles. If Burley would have been allowed to fight for the title then Robinson would have fought him.

Sounds like ducking to me.

[Madness]

Kostya Vs. Dlh, Trinidad, Mosely, PBF

[Rayrobinson#1]

Dariusz lost to Gonzalez, was losing to Rocciagani in 96 before he John Ruiz acted his way out and got Rocciagani DQ'd, and won a close decision over Virgil Hill. Jones smoked Hill with one punch early and won every round against Gonzalez two years before Gonzalez beat Dariusz (and then would go on to lose every round to Zsolt Erdei). Dariusz was an upright, 1-2 fighter who relentlessly stayed in front of his opponents, but didn't relentlessly throw punches. He wasn't a "pressure" fighter the way Glen Johnson was. He relied on his jab and head movement, which is why he lost to Gonzalez, having slowed up a bit. Nobody ever successfully 1. stayed in front of prime Jones, it was just out of the question. 2. controlled prime Jones with a jab, again, just out of the question. 3. out-reflexed prime Jones. The head movement that served the German well would have gotten him tagged over and over by Jones leaping pot shots. Dariusz was also pretty easy to hit, and Jones was on of the most accurate boxers of all time. I can't see Michalszewski winning on anything but a puncher's chance.



Foreman Holmes would have been great prime for prime, but Foreman retired in early 77, and Holmes didn't have his first real fight (Earnie Shavers) until a year later. So it never could have happened, and to be honest, I was uninterested in who could win between the two in the 90s.

Frazier-Norton would have been tremendous, but they were "best buds", so people leave them off the hook. Meanwhile they crucify Jones for not fighting McClellan (best friends), even though there wasn't really a good time for them to fight before McClellan was rendered retarded in early 95 (Jones had just fought James Toney in late 94), and the Klitschkos for not fighting eachother.

3 fights I would have liked to see from Roy Jones:
Nigel Benn in 95 (Benn was losing to scrubs by 96)
Dariusz Michalscewski from 98-00.
Bernard Hopkins from 97-03.

Darius had a hammer for a jab, I would have liked to at least witness Jones beat him even if we mostly agree he would have.

Frazier - Norton would have been a great class.


Yeah Benn probably left much of his vitality in the ring with McClellan. The tragic fight had to take alot out of him physically because it was so hard and grueling. If that fight was not so tragic it would have been a classic.

[2P1S]

Kostya Vs. Dlh, Trinidad, Mosely, PBF

They all avoided Kostya Tszyu.

[Slugalicious]

Kostya Vs. Dlh, Trinidad, Mosely, PBF

They all avoided Kostya Tszyu.

Lucky for him.

[2P1S]

Kostya Vs. Dlh, Trinidad, Mosely, PBF

They all avoided Kostya Tszyu.

Lucky for him.

Lucky for them.

[Slugalicious]

Tito murders him.
Mosley beats him up
Floyd makes him look bad.
DLH he probably gives a tough time. But he still loses.

[2P1S]

Tito murders him.
Mosley beats him up
Floyd makes him look bad.
DLH he probably gives a tough time. But he still loses.

No

[thaiboxer]

Trinidad? Was he ever fighting below welterweight?

Mosley had a great chin, I think he'd probably handle Zoo just fine.

The others might have had some scary moments, though.

[D-GenerationX]

Tyson vs. Bowe

This is weird one.

I do not like the style match-up as a Tyson fan. Yet Riddick Bowe wanted no part of Mike Tyson, not even the post prison Tyson.

I think the reality is that Riddick Bowe didn't have a lot going on in the testicular fortitude department.

[Rayrobinson#1]

Tyson vs. Bowe

This is weird one.

I do not like the style match-up as a Tyson fan. Yet Riddick Bowe wanted no part of Mike Tyson, not even the post prison Tyson.

I think the reality is that Riddick Bowe didn't have a lot going on in the testicular fortitude department.

True. He definitely ran from Lennox.
I don't think he had much going on in the testicles or the brain.

[2P1S]

Tyson vs. Bowe

This is weird one.

I do not like the style match-up as a Tyson fan. Yet Riddick Bowe wanted no part of Mike Tyson, not even the post prison Tyson.

I think the reality is that Riddick Bowe didn't have a lot going on in the testicular fortitude department.

Why don't you like this match up as a Tyson fan? Bowe has the tools to give Tyson problems but his tendencies in a fight play into Tyson's hands.