Pac is after another catchweight., title on the line, of course |
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Pac is after another catchweight., title on the line, of course |
 Jul 25 2010, 08:55 AM
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Lineal Champion  Group: Members Posts: 25,603 Joined: 16-January 08 Member No.: 13  |
QUOTE WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao will request a catch-weight of 150-pounds when he moves up to the junior middleweight division to challenge Antonio Margarito for the vacant WBC title on November 13. Pacquiao's attorney Franklin Gacal told the Manila Bulletin a catch-weight of "150-pounds" will be requested by the Filipino champion. The weight is four pounds below Margarito's current fighting weight and three pounds above Pacquiao' current fighting weight of 147. Pacquiao will be going for his eight divisional title. Gacal says the catch-weight request is fair for the 5'11 Margarito, telling the paper - “Margarito is big and tall even at super welter.” Mike Koncz, Pacquiao’s adviser, told the paper he is still in the United States working out the terms. Pacquiao has yet to approve the fight. Koncz will meet with Pacquiao in a few days to review the proposal for the Margarito fight. “I’ll get what’s the best deal that I could get for Manny,” Koncz said. Faggotry. Again. |
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Jul 25 2010, 09:48 AM
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World Champion Group: Members Posts: 19,495 Joined: 28-December 07 Member No.: 11 |
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Jul 25 2010, 11:46 AM
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I don't mind the catchweight...if a title isn't on the line.
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Jul 25 2010, 12:26 PM
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If there is a chance Margarito suffers career ending injuries I am all for it.
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Jul 25 2010, 04:37 PM
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World Champion Group: Members Posts: 11,610 Joined: 20-February 08 From: Glen Burnie, Maryland Member No.: 84 |
QUOTE (Rayrobinson#1 @ Jul 25 2010, 07:26 PM)  If there is a chance Margarito suffers career ending injuries I am all for it. Yep. If this was anybody else I'd be on the soapbox. But this Cheato we're talking about, fuck him. |
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Jul 25 2010, 07:17 PM
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DIE MARGACHEATO DIE DIE DIE!!!!
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Jul 25 2010, 08:38 PM
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Has the WBC said if they would recognize this fight for the 154 championship given that it's a catchweight? Of course they probably will approve, but a fight for a 154 championship should allow at least one the fighters to weight 154. “Margarito is big and tall even at super welter.” So what - I say let him weigh 154! |
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Jul 25 2010, 09:41 PM
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I know steward said a while back that cotto could weigh 150 for PAC because apparently 150 is the weight cotto will be fighting at when he's boxing at light middle anyway (cotto himself has said he wouldn't rule out a return to 147).
But I still don't like this no matter who he boxes. |
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Jul 25 2010, 09:59 PM
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Ironically enough, Margarito, who's last fight was at 154, has a better chance at 150 than at 147. I don't mind this catchweight.
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Jul 26 2010, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE (Drago @ Jul 25 2010, 09:59 PM) Ironically enough, Margarito, who's last fight was at 154, has a better chance at 150 than at 147. I don't mind this catchweight. Not for the belt. |
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Jul 26 2010, 03:30 AM
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Prospect Group: Members Posts: 643 Joined: 18-February 08 Member No.: 80 |
A title at 154 should be fought for at 154 no catchweight bullshit.
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Jul 26 2010, 04:49 AM
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QUOTE (DEAT @ Jul 26 2010, 12:16 AM) QUOTE (Drago @ Jul 25 2010, 09:59 PM) Ironically enough, Margarito, who's last fight was at 154, has a better chance at 150 than at 147. I don't mind this catchweight. Not for the belt. If there's a belt at 154 at stake, then a catchweight is bullshit. |
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Jul 26 2010, 06:44 AM
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Yeah, I don't really get this one as much. Pac is settled in at ww now and doesn't need a catchweight there, and Marg isn't overwhelming at 154, so what's the big deal? It's a marginally harder fight, true, but not by much.
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Jul 26 2010, 06:46 AM
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QUOTE (Drago @ Jul 26 2010, 06:49 AM) QUOTE (DEAT @ Jul 26 2010, 12:16 AM) QUOTE (Drago @ Jul 25 2010, 09:59 PM) Ironically enough, Margarito, who's last fight was at 154, has a better chance at 150 than at 147. I don't mind this catchweight. Not for the belt. If there's a belt at 154 at stake, then a catchweight is bullshit. Yeah, kind of. But, in light of other people who won't even get in the ring, coupled with the total lack of sympathy any of us have for Maragrito, I think Pac skates on this demand. |
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Jul 26 2010, 06:46 AM
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QUOTE (Drago @ Jul 26 2010, 04:59 AM) Ironically enough, Margarito, who's last fight was at 154, has a better chance at 150 than at 147. I don't mind this catchweight. Margarito is done. He's already been beaten in a shocking manner at 147 and probably needs to be at 154 for the sake of his health. He will be weak at 150 and will get stopped in a sickening fashion, mark my words. Arum's cashing out on him, he'll fight at whatever weight gives Pac the best chance of seriously hurting him. |
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Jul 26 2010, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE (4godssakeudamnfools @ Jul 26 2010, 05:46 AM) QUOTE (Drago @ Jul 26 2010, 04:59 AM) Ironically enough, Margarito, who's last fight was at 154, has a better chance at 150 than at 147. I don't mind this catchweight. Margarito is done. He's already been beaten in a shocking manner at 147 and probably needs to be at 154 for the sake of his health. He will be weak at 150 and will get stopped in a sickening fashion, mark my words. Arum's cashing out on him, he'll fight at whatever weight gives Pac the best chance of seriously hurting him. Great. Really even if you dont want to see Margarito destroyed and beat up into oblivion, like I do, what difference does it make? Belts mean nothing these days. Is Margarito the best 154 lb fighter out there? Definitely not Paul Williams or Martinez would be the best. Pac is just fighting a good opponent. The belt is meaningless. I dont even follow who has what belts anymore. I know the best fighter in a divison. Since the belt is irrelevant what difference does it make what weight they negotiate a fight at? If Margarito does not want to fight at a 150 then dont sign the contract. |
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Jul 26 2010, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE (Rayrobinson#1 @ Jul 26 2010, 05:44 PM) Since the belt is irrelevant what difference does it make what weight they negotiate a fight at? Because it won't be any kind of fight at all. |
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Jul 26 2010, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE (4godssakeudamnfools @ Jul 26 2010, 10:57 AM) QUOTE (Rayrobinson#1 @ Jul 26 2010, 05:44 PM) Since the belt is irrelevant what difference does it make what weight they negotiate a fight at? Because it won't be any kind of fight at all. True but really they just need to buy time in hopes of eventually setting up for Floyd. The thing I dont understand is why does Pac go along with a Margarito fight when it will do next to nothing to prepare him for Floyd? Why not go against Berto to at least sharpen up against Speed? Or Martinez to practice against a slick fighter? Or Bradley a well rounded fighter? The answer is Blob Assumhole only cares about collecting his money. I mean come on Pac will be facing an unbelievable talent in Floyd why not prep him now the best you can and that is not Margarito. |
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Jul 26 2010, 01:03 PM
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Two things:
1) Arum wants to maximize his profit before Pac's presumptive final fight with Floyd. So he matches him with in-house fighters. 2) Some of the other fights are good matchups, but don't really generate more revenue than an in-house matchup, plus there's a decent risk(more than 10%, anyway) of a Pac loss, which damages the revenue stream for a Floyd-Pac fight. Given these two things, most likely we'll see Pac-Marg, Pac-Cotto II, and finally Pac-Floyd as the last fight of each guy's career(unless one of them gets kayoed, in which case they'll probably fight one more time, just to save face). |
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Jul 26 2010, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE (thaiboxer @ Jul 25 2010, 12:46 PM) I don't mind the catchweight...if a title isn't on the line. At this point, neither of these guys give a shit about titles. Throwing a belt into any fight involving Pac or PBF is completely meaningless. |
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